"Occupy Vancouver" (OV) has released their demands. The link to the PDF is here. I've read this a few times over, and noticed the following:
#3 - They want banks and white-collar criminals punished more rigorously, but also want non-violent criminals released from prison (#40).
#15 - Canada withdraws from NATO and remain sovereign (#18) but also that the majority of defense budget be spent on housing, education, and health (#27). How do they suppose Canada will remain sovereign with no military? - warm wishes and rainbows?
#23 - No gag orders on public servants. What if that public servant disagrees with them in relation to #22?
#22 - Removal of an elected official.
#21 - What if the science points to the position held by the current Science Minister (#22)?
#9 seems to do away with the Canadian Wheat Board, but #7 certainly does.
#26 - So... by adding a second lawyer to your case, they hope to increase the number of lawyers available? What math allows for this impossibility? Can I spend money and have more at the same time?
#31 presumes there's a doctor out there who would be ethically able to prescribe these drugs, knowing they're so addictive.
#41 - I'm glad someone is standing up for the "collages" that are so ruthlessly oppressed... Next we liberate the papier machee!
#43 (banning GMOs) means no #52, #35, #32 and #51. Marijuana might be the most genetically modified plant on earth.
#41 - they want to "free" universities from corporate sponsorship, but also want free tuition.
#13 seeks to dictate what I can and cannot give my own money to. Typical liberal dictatorship, I guess.
#24 - Grammar nightmare aside, are they really opening this debate up 10 years later? They don't think that in all that time even better "false flag" evidence could have been cooked up?
#16 - CBC is already dominated by "powerful groups;" they're called the liberal media elites. By allowing them to have whatever money they want, we'd be basically shovelling money into a black hole. All their demands of accountability for funding seem to stop when it's the CBC.
#15 doesn't take into consideration the vacuum of power that immediately withdrawing from Afghanistan would cause. There are still evil people with guns who aren't happy about being ousted, who would make things far worse if they could. Without leaving a stable, democratic government to maintain freedoms, they'd be back in the qu'ranic dark ages before week's end.
#32 - all botanical drugs must be distributed like coffee beans?? What does that even mean? I'd like hot wings distributed like mail!
#33 seems to describe a situation for which I have no context. Is there a group of people being criminalised in Canada? Seems like only criminals get criminalised..... What are they trying to protect us from?
#14 - They want Swiss-style direct democracy, and Nunavut-style consensus building.... Okay... so there are about 7 million people in Switzerland and 29,000 people in Nunavut. What sort of legislation do they think people will be spending their lives voting for, then? Does this make even a little sense? Oh! And what if NO ONE wants any of their demands? Then what? What if everyone else disagrees with these demands and votes them all down?
#50 wants and end to the Tar Sands development. I presume they're okay with us buying oil from countries in which women are ruthlessly denied simple and basic human rights....
#42 answers the question of how we'll have power if we can't use nuclear or fossil fuels. But how will they overcome the difference between amounts of energy these new types can produce and our current (and presumably only growing) demand?
I'm going to cut if off there. I really could spend all day on this.
My biggest question is this: What if they don't have these demands met? Will they just continue to live outside like hobos? If I am going to make a demand of someone, don't I need some sort of leverage/threat to help motivate that person to acquiesce?
This group is terrible. They're a collection of idiots who believe that anyone actually cares what they have to say. The end.
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Great thoughts Chris. The occupy movement seems to have very circular arguments (even some mutually exclusive ones) and utopic idealisms . What I also find amusing is that those involved in Occupy Winnipeg are up in arms about being banned from the legislative building for using the "facilities" and of course, they are completely outraged by this. I honestly think that most of the people involved in the occupy movement have fried their brains on a few of those illegal substances. Seriously, they have no concept of anything beyond their own noses (so it seems). Here they are protesting current government activity and then expect that they are more than welcome to use bathrooms inside those current government buildings? Give me a break...you set up a tent for yourself on public land, you give up ALL rights to use any "modern" conveniences elsewhere that you could truly have available to you if you just went to the home that you do have....a shelter, abundance of food and freedom of movement and religious exercises that 75% of the world's population would be VERY grateful to have. The longer this goes on, the more they look like spoiled rotten idiots to me....
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